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to avoid the fiscal cliff. he'll also have to put together something that will get republican support in the house. this is a last-ditch effort and will be obviously very difficult if it succeeds at all. at this point, the white house still wants that threshold for income tax rates to be at 250,000. it's unclear, exactly what the senate proposal is going to look like. as we understand from sources, al inna, it could be a couple of days, even though this are reconvening tomorrow, it could be a couple of days before they outline the proposal. we're told by sources they are waiting to get republican support in the senate but to build pressure in the house. if they move the deadline close -- move the timeline from unveiling a proposal as close to the new year as possible it increases pressure on the house and, of course, if the house doesn't take up the bill, you can see that we're already sort of setting the scene for the blame game. democrats would point the finger at republicans for going over the fiscal cliff. >> that's been going on for a while as you well know, brianna, and as the p
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ceiling and we haven't climbed back up the fiscal cliff and the republicans begin playing games with the debt ceiling, that would be fiscal suicide. we breakthrough the debt ceiling, we're talking depression. not a quick recession. it would be the single stupidest and most damaging act of sabotage in american history. and it cannot be allowed to happen. and here, hopefully to tell me why it will not happen is alice, who probably knows more about the budget and the budget deals than probably anybody else alive. she's appointed to president obama's national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform. and she's currently a senior fellow at the brookings institution. thank you for being here tonight. >> happy to be here. >> you know much more about this than i do. you heard the intro, is there anything you want to add or correct anyway you see the fiscal cliff that you think people should know about? >> i thought your five points were good ones, especially the one about austerity, what we're talking about now is doing something really stupid as you said, and letting the wrong po
increased since the election and also increased in how people view his handling of the fiscal cliff, while attitudes towards republicans are consistently bad and the blame and disapproval is only growing for them. it's costing them in the polls and at the polls this crisis of leadership, this consistent blocking that every obama has tried to do. it's really over a tax increase, and for what? it's really to stop primary challenges. that's what this is all about. i mean, it's really bringing the country to a standstill for their own political short term. >> "new york times" is talking about the urgency issue in all of this, and lacking urgency that we have witnessed. they say, yeah, with days left before the fiscal punch lands, both sides are exhibiting little sense of urgency. rather than to foster progress. perry is that the biggest thing, the primaries moving out of this and how everything looks back? >> i think there are two things going on. the first is democrats generally feel they won a man dade. they're not backing down -- the second thing is the primary issue. you have members of co
. because president obama perfectly going over the fiscal cliff to blame republicans because he can't default on the debt. he will have to compromise between now and february. second of all the baseline gets reset if the tax cuts expire. everybody will propose a tax cut in january and right now we're fighting whether to increase taxes or not. you can see possibility of a deal seen as win-win for both sides. third, if republicans don't come up with a deal, a bad deal right now, they still have the $800 billion in revenue they put on the table from limiting deductions and loopholes that they can use to buy down rates. so i think the odds are, after january 1 we will get a deal and it will be much more favorable deal to the republican party because we'll have the leverage and president obama won't. heather: simon, basically what mark's laid out there would be more of a bunge jump over the cliff instead after nosedive, what do you think about the possibility, good thing or bad? >> i think it is going to happen whether it is good or bad. hopefully in the first week to 10 days of the new
a short time ago and neither sounds hopeful of fiscal cliff deal will be made before the deadline. so at this point is there any chance the united states can avoid taking a fiscal cliff dive? joining me for more is republican senator john hoeven of north dakota. and very simply, sir, we appreciate you being here but is harry reid right? are we going off the cliff? >> well, adam i hope he is not right. at this point president obama indicated he is going to call and talk to our leader, mitch mcconnell, senator mcconnell and make a proposal. we're very interested to see what that proposal is. we put revenues on the table. there needs to be some savings. and i believe we can get a deal so let's go. adam: what will the do look like? the president at one point actually upped what he was willing to tax. he wants taxes. originally saying on incomes of 250,000 and up. then he went to 400,000. what kind of compromise do we need from both side to get a deal done so that i don't have to keep boring people with this term fiscal cliff? >> right. to really get the deal done right you need about 4 tr
republicans say the president wants to go over the fiscal cliff. >>> and imagine someone breaking into your home and ransacking your christmas tree, stealing your electronics. meet the family who encountered a real life grinch and caught the thief on camera. it's an unbelievable story, and the family will join us live in this hour. good morning, everybody. on a christmas eve, welcome to "starting point." i'm alina cho in new york. da dana, good morning. >> good morning. alina. i'm dana bash in washington. it's christmas eve. "starting point" begins right now. >>> and our starting point, an american contractor in kabul shot and killed earlier this morning by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. it happened inside kabul's police headquarters, and it's the latest in a string of suspected green on blue attacks. pentagon correspondent barbara starr is working her sources, and she joins us from washington. barbara, we have seen a lot of these attacks. correct me if i'm wrong, this is the first time it's happened with a woman. >> reporter: i think that is absolutely correct, dana. u.s. offici
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passed legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff. democrats have not. house republicans passed a bill a few months ago, in the manner they wanted extending the current tax rates. democrats a few months ago passed their preferred option letting taxes increase for families earning more than $250,000 a year so both sides are now on their opening position. even if lawmakers, congressional leaders work out a deal at the top level will take days probably for anything to get through the house and senate. tracy: just to be cleared john boehner said he would give him 48 hours notice will for they had to come back. if he calls them today they don't have to be back for 48 hours. >> right. they have a conference call, republican conference in 30 minutes to discuss their next move. they announced they are coming back, the earliest they would be back in session would be saturday but even if lawmakers are you there is no deal yet, the upper echelons of congressional leadership that would have them vote on anything so we are waiting for congressional leaders to work something out and we are not at the phas
and republican sources at point is that we're likely to go over the fiscal cliff and there's a big political reason. once we go over the cliff, everybody's taxes go up. that's sporpt to remember. the way that lawmakers will be able to vote to change that is for a tax cut. now they are going to be voting for a tax hike of some sort. there's a very different political reality between those two votes. >> let's hope they meet in the middle, somebody that is to give between now and the end of the year, we hope. dana bash, thank you. we'll talk to you later. at half past the hour we'll check out the view of the fiscal cliff from hawaii. brianna keilar is traveling with the president. she's going to join us live. that's 25 minutes from now. >>> u.s. senator michael crapo s says he's deeply sorry for driving under the influence of alcohol. the republican who is also a mormon was pulled over, tested and arrested after running a red light early yesterday morning in virginia. he says he made a mistake and deal with whatever penalty he is given. >>> the u.s. navy seals are again mourning the loss of one
: it depends on how we get there. if we have a fiscal cliff deal, the kind the republicans were pushing through last week, it was really no government spending cuts for two years. additional revenue that would be raised was not very much. that would not cause a recession. however, if we got a deal where the president got $100 billion in additional taxes from upper income people and he got $100 billion in the immediate spending cuts as the republicans would want to match it, subtracting $2 billion it is a little over 1% of gdp. that would push us into a mild recession. unemployment was start to creep up. if we got the bigger than that, $300 billion in spending cuts and tax increases, that we would have a severe recession of the kind from which the economy could not easily recover. host: first call is lydia. caller: i had a question for the doctor morici. over the last four years, everything the president has tried to propose to get the country back to work, jobs he has proposed, the infrastructure and jobs programs, the republicans have a filibuster. they took an oath before he was sworn in to d
to congress. >> reporter: republicans have had several chances to pass a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff, but they did not do so. the president seems cautiously optimistic something will happen. the president adds that -- adding that he asked the senate to come up with a deal, but that if they do not, he says he wants them to vote to extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class. positive news, concerning former president george h.w. bush. his office released a statement saying he has been moved out of the intensive care unit and into a regular patient room at methodist hospital. he was admit to the the hospital, the day after thanksgiving with bronchitis. three people are dead after a small plane crash in california. investigators say a 63-year-old man, his wife and daughter were flying from san diego to phoenix when the crash happened. the cause is under investigation. final preparations are underway for the big new year's eve celebrations in times square. organizers have tested the confet tow make sure it floats. thousands of people from around the world wrote wishes on the confety
on only fiscal cliff will cut gdp growth substantially. you think what effect the government spending 7% plus of our gdp on debt to bases every year for the last four years, you're talking about north of a trillion dollars economic impact. ashley: you say stay away from equities, what in particular? >> long-term treasuries a deflation hedge. the stability and coupons, emerging market coupons for some holdings in newly emerging market equities. keep in mind i am not saying stay completely away from equities. normal risk exposure. ashley: what about gold, do you like the mining stocks as compared to the gold etf? >> i do like the mining stocks trading at 30-year lows and price relative to gold. if you own some equities, it is preferable in the gold sector. ashley: investment officer joining us by phone this afternoon. thank you so much. the closing bell rings fairly soon here, under six minutes time. can you guess which tech companies are up more than 100% this year? known as the google china poised to take on apple with new technology. we will tell you what it is right after the break. [
that republicans were suffering along with the country during the fiscal cliff deal in 2011, that same thing is going to happen if we go over the cliff. republicans don't want to sustain anymore damage to their brand. they've been under water in our nbc/wall street journal poll six straight years and pay a price for that. >> john harwood, thank you for your reporting from washington. >>> after the break, there have been dozens of gun-related deaths since the sandy hook massacre and the nra is still doubling down on its plan to add more guns to schools. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. >> that's the wrong debate to have if you want to talk about protecting our children. >> well, this time the nra's remarks could actually be a good thing for more gun regulation. we'll explain why next on "now." [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind
the country to go off the fiscal cliff to gain political points are lawmakers playing chicken with your taxes? >>> and a winter storm may be headed your way. who may be getting a white christmas and what it means for your holiday travels. we'll have all of that, coming up. good morning, everybody. welcome to early start. i'm alina cho in new york. >> and i'm dana bash in washington. john and zoraida are off. >> a developing story in afghanistan. an adviser to the afghan police has been shot and killed by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. the latest in the series of green on blue insider attacks and our pentagon correspondent barbara starr joins us live with details on that. good morning. how unusual is this? >> well, alana, sadly this is a story we've report sod often during the year, haven't we? the details on this attack are different in one respect. as far as we know this is a case where a woman, an afghan woman in a police uniform conducted this shooting and killing. a contractor in cab uhl police headquarters. the nato alliance has already announced the incident but not said the
right enough to get something done on the fiscal cliff. we saw the president this harch meet with the bipartisan leadership in congress. remember the republicans because of the intransigence we talked about their caucus sought the speaker es plan for a plan b. that weakened the republican negotiating position . and now the president has maximum leverage because the tax cuts are due to expire by the end of the year. mitch mcconnell said he was hopeful and optimistic that they could get a deal that they could pass. the reason that that could happen if mitch mcconnell lets it happen, john boehner may feel no option but to put that on the floor for pass adge whether or not most republicans are for it. that would be the realization of that -- >> wouldn't that violate the principle that would have govern the policy that nothing wowlingd pass unless the yort of the majority support it. >> it would violate the principle. some democrats think that mitch mcconnell is ready to force john boehner's hand. we know the republicans are going to lose the fight of taxes because tax rates are g
republican support to pass it, the speaker abdicated his role in the fiscal cliff talks. he said it was up to the u.s. senate and the white house to do something. the sad reality is that boehner is leading a dysfunctional caucus with a vocal minority of tea partiers who can hold up the chances for any deal. today harry reid accused boehner of caring more about his re-election as speaker than getting something done. take a listen. >> the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> what is boehner's game plan? does he even have one? ryan grim is washington bureau chief for "the huffington post," and glen johnson is politics editor for boston.com. i worked on the hill for years. you cover the hill and know it. that was a very personal shot from harry reid. is it accurate to say, open question, that speaker boehner is worried about staying speaker?
obvious. the prospect of reaching a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff before january 1st is very unlikely. that's putting it lightly. let's watch. >> there's 435 members of the house. what goes on in this country shouldn't be decided by the majority. it should be decided by the whole house of representatives. the speaker just has a few days left to change his mind, but i have to be very honest, mr. president, i don't know timewise how it can happen now. >> well, that was plain. this afternoon senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said he wasn't willing to offer the white house a blank check just because we're on the edge of the cliff. take a look. >> last night i told the president we'd be happy to look at whatever he proposes, but the truth is we're coming up against a hard deadline here, and as i said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> well, actually it's not a blank check the president has been pushing. and this i
't want it to be part of the fiscal cliff negotiations. it does kind of create ship republicans can use against president obama, get out of this deal as well. dennis: didn't tim geithner say all the deadline, december 31st, there's some stuff we will do. a few hundred billion here and there, trying to turn up the pressure on republicans. >> and official letter, the responsible treasury secretary also says we take extraordinary measures, fewer available than they did last round, accounting and gimmicks, not anything permanent, another $200 billion of head room under the limit which gives another two months but these are not precise numbers, we can tell you where we will hit it, they're lying or misinformed. you never know what tax receipts will look like. whenever know -- shibani: is ambitious to tackle fiscal cliff talks toy? >> they sound like they are related and they are in a longer-term strategy. in the short term the fiscal cliff is dealing with the budget and the debt ceiling is money that congress has voted to spend a. it is leverage. shibani: one side has leverage over the other
. >>> this is a crucial day in the effort to keep the country from going off the fiscal cliff. president obama meets with congressional leaders this afternoon. democrats and republicans both say a deal at this point would probably extend bush era tax cuts for most persons and raise taxes on the country's top earners. it could include an extension of long-term unemployment benefits, spending cuts would also be postponed. >>> house speaker john boehner will be at today's meeting. he says the house will convene for a rare sunday evening session. eric cantor says the house could be in session until january 2nd. that's the day before the new congress is sworn in. boehner, meanwhile, still maintains that it's up to the senate at this point to make the first move. >>> going over the fiscal cliff could have a huge impact on the local economy. thousands of people could lose their jobs, especially federal employees and government contractors. the defense industry could face billions of dollars in cuts. >> i represent the third largest number of federal employees and probably the largest single number of feder
that the public would blame republicans more -- patti ann: right. >> -- if this whole fiscal cliff disaster happens. patti ann: now how was it spun this way? there's a lot more being negotiated than just those tax rates for wealthy people. what about the fact that we have the $16 trillion debt, and these plans hardly do anything to address it? why is that not the focus? >> yeah, they do almost nothing to address it. even if the president got what he wanted in taxes which is raising taxes on americans who make above $250,000 a year, i think it would be about $850 billion over the next ten years, it wouldn't even be one year's deficit. so there, i mean, there are a lot of other things involved. republicans have demanded real spending cuts, mostly spending cuts in the entitlement programs. and what we've seen in the past few weeks is as that has been discussed among democrats, there's been a hardening of opinion that they really do not want to make any cuts or any trims really in any of the big entitlement programs, medicare, medicaid and social security. patti ann: all right. well, byron york
. if we can get that done, that takes a big bite out of the fiscal cliff. it avoids the worst outcomes and we're then going to have some tough negotiation necessary terms of how we continue to reduce the deficit, grow the economy, create -- >> but this fight comes back. now, i want to ask you specifically about entitlements, medicare and social security. are you prepared in the first year of your second term to significantly reform those two programs, to go beyond the cuts you've suggested to benefits in medicare, that your own dead commission suggested you would have to do if you were going to shore up medicare at least? are you prepared to do that in your first year of a second term? >> what i've said is i am prepared to do everything i can to make sure that medicare and social security are there not just for this generation and for future generations. >> you have to talk tough to seniors. >> i already have. one of the proposals we made is something called change cpi which basically makes an adjustment in terms of how inflation is calculated on social security, highly unpopular among
away but some lawmakers are telling republicans, not to drop the ball on the looming fiscal cliff. news4 tony is live on capitol hill where a maryland lawmaker joined the effort. tony, what's the word over there? >> reporter: we've been hearing about this closed-door session president obama is having with congressional lawmakers. but here on capitol hill, they're having a rally today and you can see behind me some folks with starting to gather and this will take place as 11:30. both sides coming together to call for some kind of agreement to have before these possible tax hikes take place. that being said, i want to bring in mr. bob packer. you're a small business owner in herndon, virginia. tell me real quick, if there's no how will it affect your business? >> if tax rates income it will affect me a number of ways. it will hammer my ability to invest in equipment and hire new people. my individual tax rate will increase and that will put additional strain on an already financially-constrained environment and taxes will increase on my customers and that will prevent them from buying my
this so-called fiscal cliff? >> that's a really good question. it's one of the reasons i'm pretty excited about the fact we already acted. we acted several months ago to extend the tax cuts for all americans. we don't have to go over the cliff. there is a piece of legislation that has passed house, which is good-- >> schieffer: well, craig shirley, who is a republican operative tauthor, observer, was quoted as saying if we were in a parliamentary system, what happened to speaker boehner would have been viewed as a vote of no confidence. do you think speaker boehner ought to step aside and let somebody else try to get this done? >> speaker boehner will be the speaker next year, without any question. the onus right now is on senator reid and the president to come up with a solution, make it a piece of legislation, pass it through the senate, present it to the house, and let's get back to the bargaining table. the american people deserve for both houses to do something and ask the president to sign it. >> schieffer: well, are you saying that the house, speaker boehner, should take no respons
to come up with a deal to avoid the so- called fiscal cliff in the u.s. will resume sunday. president obama says that congress must act now to avoid economic disaster. he has been meeting with republican and democratic leaders to reach a deal to avoid tax hikes and spending cuts that take effect january 1. >> the hour-long meeting with president barack obama was the first face-to-face session together with both republican leaders of the latest fiscal crisis. obama said he was modestly optimistic about the agreement by senate leaders on a compromise bill that could be voted on by monday. that is just two days before 6 under billion dollars of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts begin to take effect -- $600 billion of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts take effect. >> we want to make sure that unemployment insurance is still available for 2 million people and lay the groundwork for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps to take in the new year. but let's not miss this deadline. >> we are working hard to get there in the next 24 hours. i'm hopeful and optimistic. >>
who coined the phrase fiscal cliff. he says if we fall off of it in seven or eight days, that's going to lead to yet another recession. >> well, and that's why, and that's why the president ask speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell and harry reid need to come back and make sure their membership -- boehner couldn't deliver the other day -- make sure the membership, and by the way, boehner may have to go with democrats plus a minority of republicans to get the job done. gregg: yeah. >> this is about the welfare of this country, not about the welfare of a political party. gregg: all right. brad, the fiscal cliff is one of the reasons why people are so incredibly gloomy about the future, and, you know, dick's making the point here when speaker john boehner can't even get his own party to follow him and put up a vote on his plan, i mean, aren't republicans equally to blame for the public's profound pessimism? >> well, we have a divided nation, that is for sure. this president has not done his job in leading, and had he done his job in leading especially in the fiscal cliff, he wouldn't be in
the fiscal cliff, and i do not think it is responsible whether you are republican or democrat. i think both parties should unite and work for all americans. it is not obama's fault he was handed a mass. he has done a great job with that. honestly, i was a republican at the time when i voted for him and have since changed to become a democrat. is not about the individual parties. it is about responsibility. if i am not responsible with my money, i pay. i have been recently disabled, and i have spent endless hours and days and weeks and months to try to get disability. and i am unable to get it. i am concerned about our veterans coming home, not having a job, concerned about children and grandchildren having no education so that they have to work so hard for what is already outrageous tuition. i could go on and on a. everyone is glued to their tv, wondering what is going to happen. it is time that we act like responsible adults and do the job. host: keeping an eye on wall street as well. the markets are all up. the dow is up at this hour. many expect a market reaction depending on what happen
republicans. and this is problematic obviously because in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, you would need to find some sort of deal that would make it through the senate and the house and that would need democratic and republican support. now, all eyes on the senate because they will reconvene on the 27th, thursday. and senate majority leader harry reid, it is up to him, really, to cobble together something that can get some of that support. right now the white house is still supporting a threshold of $250,000 back to their initial starting point for tax rates going up for those making more than that. but you can imagine, hala, that's going to be very hard for some republicans, maybe even some democrats to sign on to. >> right. and for just about a week ago, it was common to hear a deal will be hammered out. over the last several days we're hearing more and more that potentially this is a reality for americans in eight days' time. your sources in the administration, is there a real concern among some of the people you're speaking with that indeed this fiscal cliff will become a reality? >
to strike a deal is tomorrow.... or, the u-s plunges off the so- called fiscal cliff and possibly into an economic free fall. facing a dreaded combination of spending cuts and tax hikes... president obama made an appearance, on n-b-c's meet the press. "regardless of partisan differences, our top priority has to be to make sure that taxes on middle class families do not go up that would hurt our economy badly." democrats want to keep the bush-era tax cuts for everyone, except the wealthiest americans. just how wealthy?..is a major sticking point... with negotiations now focused on an income threshold around 400-to-500 thousand dollars. *republicans argue the problem isn't tax revenue...but spending. they want reforms to entitlements. but a proposal to change the way social security benefits are measured against inflation was pulled from the table. vice president joe biden -- talked to minority leader mitch mcconnell several times today...in an effort to break the stalemate. hopefully, the discussions between the vice president and senator mcconnell will get us back on track, hopef
a deal on the fiscal cliff. however, chief white house correspondent ed henry tells us that washington may have to set with a backup plan to the backup plan. >> christmas tradition for president obama. he and first lady michelle obama saying thanks at the marine corps base hawaii. >> so many of you make sacrifices day in and day out on behalf of the freedom and behalf of the security. >> now the president is giving up some vacation time rushing back to washington aboard air force one late tonight to deal with the looming fiscal cliff. after that red eye, the president will no doubt need coffee. starbucks decided to get political in the washington, d.c., shops, by having employees write come together on cups. ceo howard schultz writing in open letter, "my hope is the simple message will serve as holiday reminder from starbuck of the spirit that bridgeed differences and we have the power to come together and make a difference in every season of the year." the president and speaker john boehner have not spoken in nearly a week. when the house republicans convene conference call today, all
together to make something happen. host: you think the fiscal cliff debate is a good sign for the country? caller: absolutely, it is a good sign for the country. you know, america does not need money. america is money. america needs jobs. what kind of jobs? american jobs. what is on american jobs? to do the best and to bring the best things. that is the mayor, -- the america that i see. i seek some unity. i travel around the world. i see some the young americans everywhere. they become the best. host: from manitoba, canada, thank you so much for calling in. a few other stories we want to run through for you -- we will continue this discussion into the next segment. here is the story on federal workers getting a pay raise -- another story at what point you to, this from "the new york times" -- one other story i wanted to point out this morning, this from the new york daily news -- that is from the daily news this morning. i want to get one more call from walker from arizona, the democratic line. walter, what is your message to congress? caller: good morning. thank you for the opportunity t
package they come up with. now that we're days away from actually going off the fiscal cliff where these automatic massive spending cuts as well as large tax increases got into effect you have to have low expectations. it appears the white house is very confident in waiting for the republicans to make the next move. they keep saying inside the white house this is up to the republicans. they're the impediment here. when you listen to senate republican leader mitch mcconnell he basically said yesterday when he got a phone call from the president two nights ago it was the first time he heard from a democrat about the fiscal cliff negotiations, whether the president, senator reid or others in about a month, around thanksgiving. with the democrats not reaching out to senator mcconnell for a month, doesn't seem like they have been pushing very hard for a deal, gregg. gregg: has the bickering between reid and boehner sort of poisoned the negotiations past the point that, you know, maybe this meeting will help at all? >> reporter: it may have because it's really, we've seen tensions escala
, a couple of days ago you said you thought we were going to go over the fiscal cliff and now we are in the midst of a lot of last-ditch bargaining between the senate leaders, reid and mcconnell, what are the chances for a small deal in the next, less than 48 hours to avoid the cliff. >> exceedingly good. i think people don't want to go over the cliff, if we can avoid it. i think, whatever we accomplish, political victory to the president, hats off to him, he stood his ground and will get tax increases, maybe not 250 but upper income americans and the sad news is we have accomplished little, in terms of not becoming greece, that bill will not affect the debt situation and it will be a a political victory for the president and i hope we have courage of our convictions, when it comes to raise the debt ceiling to fight what we believe as republicans. hats off to the president, he won. >> chris: quick follow-up, before we turn to senator feinstein, you said you don't think your conservative colleagues in the senate will filibuster or set up a procedural roadblock, they'll vote to avo
is determining what passed the republican-led house and democrat-controlled senate. fiscal conservatives say a smaller stop gap measure to avoid the cliff won't work. >> if we, in fact, do not use this period of time before right now, deal with the bigger issue and entitlements, if we just continue to kick the can down the road. the market will respond in a more permanent and negative way to our inaction. >> one thing leading republicans and democrats seem to agree on is time is running short. veteran senate democrat says there is a very small window to get something done. >> if we don't have a deal within the next 24 hours, the question is where do you buy a pair of shoes? the closer we get to the end the less likely you will compress agreement in place that will have it pass. >> this struggle over the future of the country some suggest is not that different than what many americans face in their daily lives. >> this is no different than marriage. a lot of marriages fail because they fight over money. that i get heavily in debt and they fight over money issues. we as a nation are right now
should lawmakers fail to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. >>> going over the fiscal cliff could have a huge impact on the local economy. thousands of people can lose their jobs, especially federal employees and government contractors. the defense industry could face billions of dollars in cuts. >> the third largest number of federal employees and probably the largest single number of federal contractors. so that federal nexus is really important to our economy. we need to end the uncertainty. >> economists say it's possible for us to "step over" the cliff. that means lawmakers will reach some kind of a deal in a few weeks after the new year begins. >>> breaking news right now. russia's president, vladimir putin, signed a controversial bill banning americans from adopting russian children. it goes into effect january 1st. there are estimates this could affect more than 1500 adoptions currently under way. the ban is widely viewed as retaliation for recent u.s. law targeting russians who abuse human rights. for a closer look at russia's proposed ban adoption, tune in to the "today"
to the fiscal cliff. from "thew bid frittle bit washington times." this is ron from louisiana. caller: good morning. host: who wish to nominate? -- who would you'll nominate? caller: obama. host: what makes him your hero? caller: we were on a major slide when he came into office. he save the automobile and got osama bin laden. he did everything even though the gop did nothing but filibuster. every proposal he has made. the economy is still growing even though everything that has been put against him. host: are there other heroes you look to beside the president? caller: this year i believe he should be the star for what he has gone up against. he was trying to do a reasonable -- get a compromise and the gop was saying their way or nothing . it is costing the nation. host: thank you very much. this comes from twitter. host: i next call is on the independent line. good morning. caller: the bartender that took the videotape of mr. romney talking about the 47%. he showed an insight into the candidate. host: why is he a hero? caller: he had the courage to share with others. host: anybody else in
minute fiscal cliff meetings and it appears there will be one tomorrow. harris? >> well, what kind of response is the president getting from lawmakers at this point? >> well, senate republicans say they are willing to listen to any ideas the president has as to how to find a way forward. here is more. >> last night i told the president we would be happy to look at whatever he proposes. but the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline here. and as i said, this is a conversation we should have is had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> the senate is in session and this is the first time either the house or senate has been in session for legislative business between christmas and new year's since 1970. harris? >> harris: not to put too fine a point on, it i guess it is politics, i don't know. saw what looks like a bit of taunting teen the top senate democrat and the top house republican. >> a bit of taunting that happens sometime on capitol hill. t
now. what else is at stake in the fiscal cliff? let's look at some other issues, things that we're not sure will be in a deal that comes out this week. at the top of that list, government spending cuts. that's about 8% to 10% in cuts to most every federal agency. also a pay cut for medicare doctors of 27% that would hit after january 1st. finally, don, there are a slew of other tax hikes. the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would affect average americans and which would hit on january 1st. so the fiscal cliff, it might be even bigger than people realize. don? >> lisa, thank you very much. >>> we've got a lot more planned for you this saturday night. here's what else is ahead. as our lawmakers wrestle with u.s. gun violence, chicago hits an awful milestone. 500 murders this year and counting. what's to blame? a former gang member and chicago's police superintendent join me live. >>> plus, president obama could tap this republican to lead the defense department. but not everyone wants to see a secretary hagel. why so
and democrats, we understand, are talking about right now. what else is at stake in the fiscal cliff? let's look at some other issues, things that we're not sure will be in a deal that comes out this week. at the top of that list, government spending cuts. that's about 8% to 10% in cuts to most every federal agency. also a pay cut for medicare doctors of 27% that would hit after january 1st. finally, don, there are a slew of other tax hikes. the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would affect average americans and which would hit on january 1st. so the fiscal cliff, it might be even bigger than people realize. don? >> lisa, thank you very much. >>> we've got a lot more planned for you this saturday night. here's what else is ahead. as our lawmakers wrestle with u.s. gun violence, chicago hits an awful milestone. 500 murders this year and counting. what's to blame? a former gang member and chicago's police superintendent join me live. >>> plus, president obama could tap this republican to lead the defense department. but not everyone w
is not favorable to republicans at this moment about the fiscal cliff and the markets out there again could be very, very harsh if there is no deal. so i don't know about christmas cheer but i think there are certain political realities that say there's got to be something done, even if it's a temporary patch that allows them to say we're going to have the big vote in terms of the cuts and tax hikes and reform, you know, in a few weeks. but they have got to do something in the short term or they're going to be dire consequences. i don't think that is any hyperbole, kelly, it is just the truth. kelly: just the truth. bottom line so i let you go, what is your next guess, deal or no deal? >> i think they get some kind of deal. it may pass the january 1st, december 31st deadline to get the house vote but i think you will see something done. kelly: maybe a pared down version but something will get done. kelly, have a happy holiday. >> you too, juan. jamie: the taliban is claiming responsibility for a homicide car bombing in khost. it is at the very same base where seven cia employees were killed three y
and people will blame the republicans if we two over the fiscal cliff i happen to believe they will blame everybody and the president is not going to escape liability for not leading us through this crisis, because after all, this is a manufactured crisis, created by the very people who are charged now it solve it to refuse to solve it. so they're just kicking the can down the road. let's not forget in 2013, we have another crisis looming and that is the debt ceiling. kelly: exactly right. let's remind people what this fiscal cliff is really all about. we're talking about automatic tax cuts that will go into place as well as drastic, draconian cuts in entitlement programs, medicare, and even the military. the military can suffer very greatly if this goes through the sequestration. if you look at all this, you realize something has got to be done, because $2,000 per average taxpayer will be added to them over the course of this year if they fail to do something, what is going to happen? what is your prediction, brad? >> well, my prediction is, that we're likely to go over the cliff because
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